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Post by DynastyDave on Apr 1, 2012 1:00:30 GMT -5
As a pretty diehard Browns fan, heck any fan of the Browns needs to be a diehard fan, I will happily try to bring the latest news and scoop and perspective as a fan looking in at the team.
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Post by gambler on Apr 1, 2012 1:06:24 GMT -5
Any hope for Little.? I'm an unfortunate owner in dynasty.
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Post by DynastyDave on Apr 1, 2012 1:07:44 GMT -5
Interesting news is that likely targets for the Browns are either Blackmon or TRich. However, there have been slight news of Clairborne or Tannenhill.
Personally, I think the one with the most fantasy impact would be Blackmon. I think it will raise Little's stock and McCoy's as well. Though, the lingering concern of the turnstile we call the right side of the Offensive Line still exists and didn't get fixed in FA. If it doesn't get fixed in the draft McCoy will have a similar season to last and won't be able to get the ball to Little or Blackmon.
TRich, see the turnstile on the rightside. Teams can just stack the middle and the left side and he'd have barely anywhere to go and would require TRich to earn his miles which can lead to an injury-plagued rookie season. On the plus side, he's guaranteed to be the starter. Though, TRich might keep the defense honest and allow for the passing game to work better, but in the WCO it is more pass oriented to begin with.
If the Browns do not fix the right side of the line, either pick will have trouble doing much.
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Post by DynastyDave on Apr 1, 2012 1:14:45 GMT -5
Any hope for Little.? I'm an unfortunate owner in dynasty. I have Little as well and am holding on to him. He did show a few glimpses last year, besides his case of the dropsies, but the whole team was plagued by that and I'm hoping it was more due to the fact that McCoy had to release it quicker than he wanted to because of the turnstile on the right side of the OL. He can be a big playmaker and which I'm hoping he gets over what I think were just rookie jitters. If the Browns take Blackmon, I still think it doesn't hurt his stock much. Little would be a solid number 2 WR for the Browns and he is a fighter. And, I think Blackmon would take some of the coverage away from Little to get open more. I do hope that he does as well as you hope he does. He's my third WR after Megatron and V.Cruz and I have no RB to place in my Flex. By the way, here is some of his later Catches & Carries www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3-Z847P7F8and the first part of the season: www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG7guYAUm2AEdit: Also keep in mind, The Browns playcalling was horrendous last year. You could pretty much call exactly what they did on 1st and 10....Run up the middle, every single time as if they were trying to finally trick someone later on in the season.
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Post by burgandy on Apr 1, 2012 8:14:32 GMT -5
I like little, I don't like McCoy. If Blackmon goes to Clev than Little is doomed with McCoy at the helm. There is no room right now in that offense for 2 FF WR producers. McCoy has to change that way of thinking for me.
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Post by DynastyDave on Apr 1, 2012 17:28:54 GMT -5
I like little, I don't like McCoy. If Blackmon goes to Clev than Little is doomed with McCoy at the helm. There is no room right now in that offense for 2 FF WR producers. McCoy has to change that way of thinking for me. Unlike some Browns fans, I don't see McCoy as a big problem at the helm. The bigger problem was that McCoy was getting killed after he threw the ball during most of the passing downs. If given time to throw on plays that require time to develop, I think he'll perform better. A lot of people think he just lacks the arm strength, but I think it's more the playcalling and limited time to throw. Start the first Little Link I listed at around 45 seconds. Plenty of time and he launched a ball from the Cleveland 30 to the Rams 15, right on the money to Little. But I guess some people expect him to throw farther accurate passes than that, but they are not that big of the WCO playbook. And last year's playcalling was horrendous. I wanted to take Shurmur out back and hang him out to dry after he called run up the middle on EVERY SINGLE first down. It's hard to go anywhere in the league when you start 2 and 9 or 2nd and 11 because the defense knows the 1st down play. But you might be correct in your assessment that Cleveland cannot support 2 fantasy WRs. But if they fix the OL, I think that will change. Last year, Cribbs and Little were ranked 51 and 52 best WRs in my league, while playing on a Cleveland team that had the third worst scoring total with 218 points. If they can improve that, then I think 2 WRs wll be fantasy gems, not Megatron level gems but good enough for a wr2 or wr3. Another note, Little got most of his points off of yardage and catches. He only had 2 TD's last season, though he was very close to scoring more times than that. Cribbs scored 2.5 more points than Little in my league but had 2 TD's more than Little. All Little and Blackmon if the Browns drafted him would need would be better offensive production from the Browns and they can both be pretty successful, though I'd have to go Blackmon over Little until proven otherwise. Of course, it's all hopes and dreams what i say comes true, and it not necessarily will happen, but there is the potential.
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Post by Jaysports on Apr 1, 2012 19:40:57 GMT -5
Great insight and welcome to the boards Mtux96, our goal is to have an insider for every NFL team which helps us all. Any thoughts on 2nd yr TE Cameron?
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Post by DynastyDave on Apr 1, 2012 21:11:19 GMT -5
Any thoughts on 2nd yr TE Cameron? Jordan Cameron is an enigma wrapped up in a bigger riddle that has been buried deep within the mud to be dug up later and then placed in a box of question. Cameron showed very little last year and was barely on the field. Though, we had a plethora of TEs to choose from. His selection last year was a head scratcher and there were plenty of other good players to be taken at that slot. I don't see him having any fantasy impact. My pick at best would be Evan Moore and he is extremely unreliable but does come through with some decent points once in a blue moon.
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Post by dynastyguru on Apr 2, 2012 11:32:23 GMT -5
I like little, I don't like McCoy. If Blackmon goes to Clev than Little is doomed with McCoy at the helm. There is no room right now in that offense for 2 FF WR producers. McCoy has to change that way of thinking for me. Unlike some Browns fans, I don't see McCoy as a big problem at the helm. The bigger problem was that McCoy was getting killed after he threw the ball during most of the passing downs. If given time to throw on plays that require time to develop, I think he'll perform better. A lot of people think he just lacks the arm strength, but I think it's more the playcalling and limited time to throw. Start the first Little Link I listed at around 45 seconds. Plenty of time and he launched a ball from the Cleveland 30 to the Rams 15, right on the money to Little. But I guess some people expect him to throw farther accurate passes than that, but they are not that big of the WCO playbook. And last year's playcalling was horrendous. I wanted to take Shurmur out back and hang him out to dry after he called run up the middle on EVERY SINGLE first down. It's hard to go anywhere in the league when you start 2 and 9 or 2nd and 11 because the defense knows the 1st down play. But you might be correct in your assessment that Cleveland cannot support 2 fantasy WRs. But if they fix the OL, I think that will change. Last year, Cribbs and Little were ranked 51 and 52 best WRs in my league, while playing on a Cleveland team that had the third worst scoring total with 218 points. If they can improve that, then I think 2 WRs wll be fantasy gems, not Megatron level gems but good enough for a wr2 or wr3. Another note, Little got most of his points off of yardage and catches. He only had 2 TD's last season, though he was very close to scoring more times than that. Cribbs scored 2.5 more points than Little in my league but had 2 TD's more than Little. All Little and Blackmon if the Browns drafted him would need would be better offensive production from the Browns and they can both be pretty successful, though I'd have to go Blackmon over Little until proven otherwise. Of course, it's all hopes and dreams what i say comes true, and it not necessarily will happen, but there is the potential. Interesting on McCoy. Its nice to hear a believer. I was a McCoy believer coming out of college and was actually quoted many a times, saying watch this one, he has that "x" or "it" factor. He is a natural leader and a good kid. I am rooting for him and I hope you are right.
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Post by DynastyDave on Apr 2, 2012 13:49:24 GMT -5
Interesting on McCoy. Its nice to hear a believer. I was a McCoy believer coming out of college and was actually quoted many a times, saying watch this one, he has that "x" or "it" factor. He is a natural leader and a good kid. I am rooting for him and I hope you are right. I would like to think I'm right as well. I don't really know how so many people can put all the blame on Colt for last season. He was on his back after almost every pass and his receivers didn't help when they lead the league in drops. Not to mention, his rookie season was his rookie season in which the original plan was for him to sit out the season and learn from the bench, but injuries to both the starter and 2nd backup changed that. And then last year, he was in a brand new season in a new system while having to learn the new system with his teammates in a shortened league season due to the strike. You cannot expect a qb to perform that great in a constantly changing system. I think this season will show what he should be capable of after going through one season through the system. I just hope the playcalling is better than last year. Another reason people claim he cannot be a qb is arm strength. I think he has the strength to launch balls accurately. The Little pass at 50 seconds in my first link shows that he can. The problem is that the playcalling and the lack of time to throw didn't present enough of these opportunities. Here's a chart of arm strength: blogs.ourlads.com/2012/03/12/quarterback-ball-velocity-at-nfl-combine-2008-2012/Colt scored a 56 (though it was in a private workout with a speed gun and chip in ball) which is the same as Andy Dalton scored at the Combine a year later. And, 6 mph better than Matt Flynn did in 2008 which some fans wanted to replace Colt with. I'm sure Colt's shoulder issue didn't help him much either. But I don't see why so many Browns fans are asking for Colt to be replaced this year. I don't see Colt being the problem, and if I'm wrong we'd suck this year again(which I'm hoping not to) and we'll have a good selection of QBs coming out next year. But I have faith that Colt will have a better year next year.
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Post by DynastyDave on Apr 2, 2012 20:48:31 GMT -5
Here is a list of prospects who visited the Browns: (as of April 2) ;D Boise State RB Doug Martin (visit) -- NFLDraftScout.com projection: first- or second-round pick. California OT Mitchell Schwartz (visit) -- NFLDraftScout.com projection: second- or third-round pick. Notre Dame WR Michael Floyd (visit) -- NFLDraftScout.com projection: first-round pick. ;D Oklahoma State WR Justin Blackmon (visit) -- NFLDraftScout.com projection: first-round pick. ;D Alabama RB Trent Richardson (visit) -- NFLDraftScout.com projection: first-round pick. ;D Louisiana State CB Morris Claiborne (visit) -- NFLDraftScout.com projection: first-round pick. Oklahama State QB Brandon Weeden (visit) -- NFLDraftScout.com projection: second-round pick. Michigan State QB Kirk Cousins (visit) -- NFLDraftScout.com projection: second- or third-round pick. Texas A&M QB Ryan Tannehill (visit) -- NFLDraftScout.com projection: first-round pick. San Diego State punter Brian Stahovich (workout) -- NFLDraftScout.com projection: undrafted. Illinois DE Whitney Mercilus (visit) -- NFLDraftScout.com projection: first-round pick. Louisiana State DT Michael Brockers (visit) -- NFLDraftScout.com projection: first-round pick. ;D Stanford OT Jonathan Martin (visit) -- NFLDraftScout.com projection: first-round pick. West Virginia OLB/DE Bruce Irvin (visit) -- NFLDraftScout.com projection: second- or third-round pick. Virginia Tech RB David Wilson (visit) -- NFLDraftScout.com projection: first- or second-round pick. Louisiana-Lafayette TE Ladarius Green (workout) -- NFLDraftScout.com projection: third-round pick. Cincinnati RB Isaiah Pead (workout) -- NFLDraftScout.com projection: second- or third-round pick. Source: www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland-browns/cleveland-browns-1.270107/2012-nfl-draft-tracking-prospects-with-workouts-or-visits-set-up-with-browns-1.283959
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Post by gambler on Apr 2, 2012 23:54:24 GMT -5
If they could get Doug Martin in the 2nd it would be an absolute steal (assuming they don't take Richardson in the first).
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Post by DynastyDave on Apr 3, 2012 2:05:07 GMT -5
If they could get Doug Martin in the 2nd it would be an absolute steal (assuming they don't take Richardson in the first). I think it would be as well, but we also do have the 22nd pick in the draft too... Scenario A: Blackmon/OL/D.Martin Of course, that is hoping that D.Martin is there at 37, but D.martin can easily go at 22 and OL later on. Scenario A2: Blackmon/D.Martin/L.David with an RT later in the draft Scenario B: Blackmon/Richardson If Richardson falls far enough, I think the Browns can pull a trade to move up from 22 very easily. TB and STL might have something to say against that though. Scenario C: Richardson/Floyd/Best OT/OG on board Assuming Floyd falls, though you can insert another WR in there. Scenario D: Blackmon/Floyd/D.Martin Though, I'm not sure they'd go Wr-Wr and I have doubts Floyd will last that long. Scenario E: Clairborne/WR/D.martin WR and D.martin can be switched around. A lot of this though depends on who will still be on the board and might just be a little wishful thinking. I think I like Scenario A2, though if unlikely Scenario B happens, I'd be crazily happy with joy.
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Post by burgandy on Apr 3, 2012 7:31:23 GMT -5
There is sooo much WR depth that they could take Richardson/ Address O line at 22 and still have a chance for a stud WR (even floyd) at 37 or Wright
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Post by burgandy on Apr 3, 2012 7:34:08 GMT -5
If they are high on Little, then I would sit on the WR position until the 2nd or 3rd round. You could even take Riley Rief (ot iowa) at 4 if they really need a OT. Take best rb and best wr with 22 and 37. Cleveland should be able to do well.
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