TNT
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Post by TNT on Mar 16, 2012 17:12:26 GMT -5
I give Graham for Dez and Olson, PPR. Whatcha think?
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Post by burgandy on Mar 16, 2012 18:01:30 GMT -5
GD man. How can ya give up Graham? Dez is in the ballpark but honestly I think you need more than olson. Unless you think Dez is finally going to go "elite" on us this year, but thats too risky for me.
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Post by shamrock84 on Mar 16, 2012 18:52:38 GMT -5
I make this trade. A TE, is a TE, is a TE. There are always young up and comers at the position and while Graham is a hot commodity now he's limited by the upside of his position. Dez is in my top ten at WR which is much harder to achieve than a top tier at TE. I make this deal.
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Post by burgandy on Mar 16, 2012 19:09:12 GMT -5
the drop off in ppg from graham to olson is to big. Dez has all the potential, but Graham has actually shown us he can cheive his
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Post by purplepride on Mar 16, 2012 19:14:04 GMT -5
2011- Graham 293 pts.... Olson... 128. PPR. Nuf said
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Post by sandela on Mar 17, 2012 10:18:21 GMT -5
2011- Graham 293 pts.... Olson... 128. PPR. Nuf said But you're also getting Dez who scored 200+ as well and should improve. Not saying I'd do the deal but itd make me think.
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Post by Jaysports on Mar 17, 2012 11:09:58 GMT -5
I think it's a decent offer, I'd pass though. Last season "could" be Graham's career year, but he has such an advantage over the majority of the TE's. He's a WR1 at the TE position. I also don't see anything that would affect his numbers moving forward. Brees should be elite for the next 3-4 seasons. They have one of the most pass-friendly offenses in the NFL. Brees relies on him in the red-zone too due to his size and jumping ability, so his TD's should be pretty consistent from year to year.
Dez "could" be a monster, but he has a ton of competition for targets with Austin and Witten. The good thing is that Robinson signed with the Jags, so that should free up some extra targets. My other concerns are his work ethic and his QB. While I like Romo I believe Jerry has to be tiring with his late season melt-downs. What happens if he's replaced? What if they bring in a rookie or another QB that wants to spread the ball to the open WR. The open WR isn't always Dez when it should be, his route running definitely leaves a lot to be desired at this point in his career which comes back to his work ethic. He also seems to be in the news a lot for non-football related things, so there are some character concerns there.
There seems to be more question marks about Dez right now along with the fact that Graham gives you such a huge advantage at the TE position. Graham for me please!
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Post by gambler on Mar 18, 2012 18:14:58 GMT -5
I'm not a Dez fan at all. He's a lot of hype and athletic ability mixed with no discipline and a lazy entitled attitude. Hell, he doesn't even know what routs to run still.
In this case I feel you have to go with the proven elite player in Graham. Even if Dez somehow works out, the trade is basically a wash....it he doesn't work out, then you've just got hosed in the trade.
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Post by ryder on Mar 19, 2012 16:40:27 GMT -5
I give Graham for Dez and Olson, PPR. Whatcha think? I'd pass on this offer. Keep the stud. Graham has more targets (1/3 more) and red zone looks. I like Dez a lot, but Olsen plays in a two TE system which will cap his upside.
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Post by weekendwarriors on Mar 20, 2012 10:46:05 GMT -5
fair offer but I'd keep the shoe in as Graham.
I want to see a big year and a big step forward for Dez this year before I'm willing to give away Graham.
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