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Post by burgandy on Mar 28, 2012 8:06:00 GMT -5
Or have him take Kolb and the 3.05 out and throw Freeman in, maybe add your 2.07. Hard not to like Freeman now.
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Post by JScott on Mar 28, 2012 8:50:41 GMT -5
Or have him take Kolb and the 3.05 out and throw Freeman in, maybe add your 2.07. Hard not to like Freeman now. The goal is getting the 1.05 along with a younger RB. Freeman would be real nice too but Roeth is my starter so don't want to sacrifice the 1.05 for a backup QB.
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Post by Jaysports on Mar 28, 2012 9:25:52 GMT -5
Try for Freeman......but, like you said you have Roethe, I'd keep it simple if Freeman doesn't work out....get your targets and call it a day if he'd do the below.
J Stewart + J Gresham + 1.5 for MJD + Pettigrew + 2.7
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Post by JScott on Mar 31, 2012 19:49:30 GMT -5
So turns out the owner (Owner 1) was balking because he was working another offer involving the ARI RBs to get Ray Rice from Owner 2.
Now Owner 2 is approaching me about getting MJD :lol:
So Owner 2 gave up Rice for 1.05 + Wells + Williams then dealt 1.05 + his 1.11 for 1.01. I'm just posting this as reference.
On to MJD... Owner 2 has offered me Brown + Carter (IND RBs) + 2.11 + 4.11 + Alex Smith for MJD + TJax. I like the potential of Brown/Carter and the backup QB upgrade is nice but 2.11 + 4.11 is not close to the 1.05 he got in his trade IMO. Rice is a little better than MJD and the ARI RBs are a little better than the IND RBs (in his words) so the additional picks/value should be close to 1.05.
A few thoughts:
1.) Sub the 4.11 with Vincent Brown, who was taken last year in the early 3rd by Owner 2. Does 2.11 + Brown equal a 1.05 value?
2.) Sub (2.11 + 4.11) with Mike Wallace and take or leave the QBs. Does Mike Wallace equal or exceed a 1.05 value?
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Post by Jaysports on Mar 31, 2012 20:00:59 GMT -5
First off Rice is worth much more than 1.5 and Wells/Williams. Secondly, 1.5 and 1.11 for the 1.1 was a steal getting Richardson. A stud for two "IR's.... Third, I really don't like that trade for you, not good value for MJD. 2.11 and 4.11 are not valuable at all IMO. Brown and Carter together might be worth a rook pick between 2.2 and 2.6 IMO. They may draft a RB too. On to MJD... Owner 2 has offered me Brown + Carter (IND RBs) + 2.11 + 4.11 + Alex Smith for MJD + TJax. I like the potential of Brown/Carter and the backup QB upgrade is nice but 2.11 + 4.11 is not close to the 1.05 he got in his trade IMO. Rice is a little better than MJD and the ARI RBs are a little better than the IND RBs (in his words) so the additional picks/value should be close to 1.05.
A few thoughts:
1.) Sub the 4.11 with Vincent Brown, who was taken last year in the early 3rd by Owner 2. Does 2.11 + Brown equal a 1.05 value? NO
2.) Sub (2.11 + 4.11) with Mike Wallace and take or leave the QBs. Does Mike Wallace equal or exceed a 1.05 value? I take Wallace over 1.5 all day....
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Post by JScott on Mar 31, 2012 21:31:42 GMT -5
Agree on Rice's value. And Owner 2 also agreed. He told me he only did the first deal, which he undersold Rice because he had the second deal which he underpaid for TRich in place. The nice thing about this piece of info is he's admitting he didn't get enough for Rice so I can hopefully use that to get more for MJD.
At this point I told him 2.11 + 4.11 + the backup QB upgrade was not equal to 1.05, which he set as the floor. I asked him to come back with what he thinks is worth 1.05 in compensation. We'll see...
Thanks for the reply Jay
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Post by Jaysports on Apr 2, 2012 0:18:39 GMT -5
Np JS
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Post by farfromhome on Apr 8, 2012 11:34:21 GMT -5
uh....no to the first offer.....no to the 2nd......no to the 3rd....no....no....no.....people are really really pushing this mjd is getting old agenda a little to far...NO MATTER the format he is a top ten pick....some could argue as high as 5....beanie?....indy rbs?....freeman?...all garbage if they are the CENTER piece in dealing of mjd....
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Post by burgandy on Apr 8, 2012 12:13:44 GMT -5
uh....no to the first offer.....no to the 2nd......no to the 3rd....no....no....no.....people are really really pushing this mjd is getting old agenda a little to far...NO MATTER the format he is a top ten pick....some could argue as high as 5....beanie?....indy rbs?....freeman?...all garbage if they are the CENTER piece in dealing of mjd.... MJD is not done, I def don't think he is, but when do YOU think the right time to move a RB is or is it just about Value. Lets say I offer you CJK2? Do you take that?
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